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What's all this fuss about Lloyds use of abnegate? It's a perfectly cromulent word.
I am in simpatico with the sagacious perspective of our dear comrade, Nicolaou. It is my fervent predilection that the Patreon benefactors of Mr Evans procure for him a quite pertinent thesaurus for his interminable utilisation.
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One is reminded of the fine example provided in the Bible by Shadrach, Meshach, Tibor and Abnegate.
They refused to drop their Patreon pledges even under threat from from the Silvio Mob.
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I like this. Let’s play a game with using the word abnegate.
If anyone causes the support of Lloyd Evans to be abnegated, then this case will be litigated.
If the sex worker decides to abnegate, then Lloyd Evans will be forced to masturbate.
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For such a prominent CSA advocate, I fail to understand how he cannot grasp that ….The same man that abandoned his family for a sex holiday who feels he has the moral authority to criticise parents for sending their children to a boarding school.
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The goalposts have been moved so many times it’s nearly impossible to keep track.
Feb/March 2022 - This was just an affair and Lloyd went to Thailand for scuba. You’re racist to assume it was for sex. None of your business.
April 2022 - Lloyd dated a sex worker in Thailand. No money was exchanged. All consensual and you are being sued. Lloyd apologised to Dijana and will do so for the rest of his life. You aren’t owed one. Also: you are racist.
May 2022 - Lawsuit filed and expect a ruling against you shortly, the evidence against you is so great. Lloyd will release the list of charges shortly. Just because you are not listed doesn’t mean you are immune from future litigation. The statute of limitations is 3 months so beware. Lloyd will welcome all his Patrons back as they realise they’ve been conned as the verdicts come in all in his favour.
June/July/August 2022 - These people are criminal defendants and you are sharing in their crimes. The burden is on these defendants to prove they are innocent, and no, Lloyd is under no obligation to inform them exactly what he is accusing them of. Lloyd is amazed at how many have been conned by these lies and there is something wrong with exJWs who do not support him.
Sept 2022 - Still no verdict but Lloyd will sue you for the next 40 years or until he’s dead. He’ll get you.
Oct/Nov/Dec 2022 - OK you people really need to leave Lloyd alone and get a life. Cult expert and exJW commentator Tibor has said you all have a JW mindset and the only cure is for you to drop all objections to Lloyd’s activism business. His business is hurting and exJW activism has been dealt a huge blow. Lloyd has found a new way to get paid by YT memberships and has huge plans for the upcoming year. Stop the bullying!
Jan/Feb 2023 - OK things are bad, Lloyd needs money (PayPal most urgent). He might just have to quit! The defamation continues!
March 2023 - The donations need to increase if you want Lloyd to do great things this year. Ramacro is in danger of being shut down and Lloyd can’t afford camera equipment.
April 2023 - OK Lloyd really means it this time. Ramacro is finished. 500 patrons or he’s quitting and sacking Tibor and Dijana and it’s all YOUR fault. 620 patrons if the channel is to grow and do wonderful things this year. Also: Croatian justice is “glacially slow”. Don’t expect a verdict for years, and it will definitely be in favour of Lloyd.
May 2023 - The defamation has failed and Lloyd met his financial goals. All this talk about Thailand was false. Lloyd went for scuba, there was no sex for hire involved. Just an affair. This is old news people, shut up.
June 2023 - I can’t believe there is yet another video about Lloyd out there. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand and Croatia only for the party getting paid. Lloyd paid but it was not illegal! This is defamation and @cedarsjwsurvey you need to alert your lawyers!
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The rate of decline after his temporary bounce has advanced to more than it was before, which is nice to see.
The underlying problem has never been adequately addressed by him. Instead he filed a lawsuit in his one horse town and claimed at the time he could see no reason why this wouldn’t be ruled on immediately due to the evidence being on his side. He thought he could bully his way out of this one.
Meanwhile his reputation has never recovered, when in fact it has gotten even worse with the constant sniping and the begging stunts.
The way he went about getting his bounce was artificial in nature as most of these new supporters had to be emotionally manipulated into giving. He did himself no favours by gloating about it all afterwards like it was (and certainly is) some sort of popularity contest with him.
Even people inclined to support him don’t like the drama. The best way to counter that would be to invest in his business and produce like 2020-2021 Lloyd. He has significantly less money to work with so that would require a personal investment from his income which he is staunchly against doing. He feels that what he is given now is barely enough to make a living off of and he is also owed for past work.
Him engaging with what was an obvious troll job on him doesn’t help either. He thinks it does because he loves to play the victim, but the entire goal of a troll is to get him to speak about a certain subject at hand.
Like Caleb mentioned in his video, he does this all to himself. He’ll never change and what happened last year should have been a wake up call that he needs to clean it up a bit and play the PR game. Whining about this forum and accusations of CSA made about him on Twitter only opens up Pandora’s box.
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He says he has page after page explaining the defamation from each of the people he is suing. All he needs to do is release that.
And why elaborate on what the defamation is when he has an audience that is conditioned to believe him or face consequences for raising questions? So repeat “defamation” ad nauseam and never define it. Once it is defined, people start to get wind of what he really did and is currently doing: suing people for speaking about things he has admitted to himself.
His Patreon honeymoon is over and he lost two more last night to bring him to 526 - a 70 patron loss from where he peaked almost two months ago. His YT memberships show 8 members but that might just be the higher tier ones who want to be shown. He’s in an exceptionally foul mood and is now declaring that his “business” is being defamed as well. He might need an adjustment on his meds.
He also launched into a trivial and pointless argument with someone over dinosaur bones. Vintage Lloyd - always assumes he’s the smartest guy in the room when he clearly is not.
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528 now.
Here’s my submission for his wall art:
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It's now down to 539
He’s now gone below his 540 patron goal for the second time in a year. He had peaked at 596, so this represents 57 patrons that have dropped in little over a month. And counting.
The Caleb video really took on Lloyd from a chronological perspective and didn’t just dwell on the Thailand scandal. He dug up old videos of Lloyd that I have never seen.
Right at the beginning of the video there was this one with Lloyd at his ugliest. He was in a Darth Vader t-shirt and a hairdo that looked like Prince Valiant got up out of bed and had hogged the donuts at the buffet table.
He’s explaining the reason why they moved to Croatia, and he actually throws a little shade at his wife for making him go to the elders, arguing that it would ruin his faith. He REALLY did not want to go to the elders for this. Very manipulative.
He slips though when he explains the move to Croatia:
Dijana and I decided that we would move back…. That she would move back to Croatia and I would come with her
Starts with “we”, then corrects it to “she”. Lends some credence to Kim’s account that Dijana told her she went to Croatia alone and Lloyd followed her there.
Video premieres in 36 minutes…
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This was posted a day ago by Danny Lerman. A great summary, IMO.
“Danny Lerman” is the secondary account of exJW Caleb. He’s going to premiere it on the Caleb account tomorrow. Together with Lloyd’s expected Patron drop (552 currently - 31 May) the live chat is probably going to be lit.
Jabba the Hutt himself might make an appearance, especially if the Patron drop is huge. Caleb did sort of dare Lloyd to add him to his lawsuit at the very end.
And Lloyd, please (don’t?) consider joining. You are so good at comebacks and snarky comments. Take Kit Kat with you, she does such a stellar job of defending you and doesn’t sound foolish at all. It would be a shame to let Caleb and others talk this way about you. He’s probably going to launch a litany of attacks on “your family” that are definitely going to be …
libelous….
